Now I really have a problem! (still Kuroisan)

JSPCHIEF · #1 (**permalink**) 11-05-2002, 04:05 PM

Ok..after avoiding Kuroisan the first time I fought him, I came back later and met him again. I was in no condition to fight him (just fought Demogorgan) so I ran for the thieves guild. Sola and Korgy got chunked on the way and in go my chars just as I hear "you must gather your party blah, blah, blah". O CRAP!!! I just auto-saved my chunked NPCs. My last q-save was before the Demogorgan and with an error in how I wanted to play out the whole Odren thing. So now I am more screwed than a winecork. Is there any way to retrieve my previous Auto-save? Any other solutions? I really don't want to go way back in the game to remedy this.

JackOfClubs · #2 (**permalink**) 11-05-2002, 07:32 PM

Ouch.

No, there is no way to restore your auto-save once it gets over-written. The only option is to CLUA Korgan and Solaufein back into your auto-saved game, or go back and fight the big D.

If you were in the middle of a romance with S, you might have to mess around with the variables in Shadow Keeper.

serjeLeBlade · #3 (**permalink**) 11-06-2002, 02:58 AM

Do you mean that you did not save after defeating the Demogorgon?
And that you didn't even rest and cure?
With Kuriosan still alive and looking for you?

JSPCHIEF · #4 (**permalink**) 11-06-2002, 08:27 AM

Yea...just wanted to celebrate Demo victory with a cold pilsner from the Sea's Bounty and sleep in my own bed at my Thieves guild. Guess I got ahead of my self. DOH!

Ok... now for something completely different. Since I have to go back and fight the Demogorgan again, and can't use the ol' spike trap cheese, any suggestions? I have installed Sola Mod so I don't know if that includes Imp. Demo, but he seems much tougher this time around. I did search and none of the methods mentioned seemed to come close to working.

serjeLeBlade · #5 (**permalink**) 11-06-2002, 08:52 AM

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Originally posted by JSPCHIEF
Ok... now for something completely different. Since I have to go back and fight the Demogorgan again, and can't use the ol' spike trap cheese, any suggestions?

You won the fight one time already, correct?
So there's no reason to go through it again, imho.
You just lost a save. If you don't want to punish yourself for it, I would suggest to do the following:
- download Weimers' new "Improved tactical encounters" pack (now it's separated from the Sola mod)
- Install and then uninstall Improved Demogorgon alone

(tricky, isn't it?)
- Kill the (now unimproved) Demogrgon. (You should be able to, aren't you?). Then *REST AND SAVE*, please

- Do preparations and go to kill that Kuriosan guy, before he catches you off guard again (this is optional.... just my advice)

- Reinstall Improved Demogorgon if you like to.

Ask if you need clarifications!

Koveras · #6 (**permalink**) 11-06-2002, 04:08 PM

Who's in your party, and what levels are they? If you completed the entire watcher's keep, then you should have enough xp to wack the D's behind.

JSPCHIEF · #7 (**permalink**) 11-07-2002, 09:12 PM

Right now I have Korgan (24), Keldorn (22), Edwin (22), Anomen (25/7), Sola (17/16), and my Swash (30). These guys are all very high lvl and I rarely have much problem in battles. I used Spike Trap cheese

to kill him last time, but my save is from a time when I talked to him, left, and came back. So I am unable to go to the spawn area without spawing him. Keep in mind this is Improved Demo.

UserUnfriendly · #8 (**permalink**) 11-08-2002, 01:05 AM

after you talked to him, if a party member goes too close to trigger point demo will spawn....

but, a image will not trigger...

hahahahhahahahahhahaha............................ ..................

use a project image scroll or helm of villy, and load up with 20 spike traps...hehehehhehehehehhe.......

well, heck, you knew any suggestion from me would involve cheese...

am having fun fun fun with wes smarter mages, boy, are they smart...and cheat a lot...so cheesying them is so much more satisfying...

serjeLeBlade · #9 (**permalink**) 11-08-2002, 08:12 AM

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Originally posted by JSPCHIEF
Right now I have Korgan (24), Keldorn (22), Edwin (22), Anomen (25/7), Sola (17/16), and my Swash (30).

WHAT THE... !?!?

You mean you were able to let Kuroisan "chunk" a level 24 Korgan and a level 17/16 Sola?

(sorry but... what were you thinking about, dude?)
(and...what are you doing hanging around in SoA still with such levels if I may ask?)

If I had a 17/16 Sola, he could have killed Kuroisan by himself alone!
(Well, he almost did it anyway)

Koveras · #10 (**permalink**) 11-08-2002, 03:19 PM

Kuroisan is only 13/14

You don't even need cheese to beat him.

UserUnfriendly · #11 (**permalink**) 11-08-2002, 06:02 PM

yes you do...even bun bun had problems due to acid revenge...until i figured out spell immunity conjuration will give you immunity to acid, without needing the spell...hehhehehheh...acid arrow is a conjuration spell....

kuro is simple to beat using anti sola strategy, use ring of ram, and switch to a diff map location...the ai is very vulnerable to that, wait for stacked spell immunities to wear off, and slice and dice...

UserUnfriendly · #12 (**permalink**) 11-08-2002, 06:08 PM

"If I had a 17/16 Sola, he could have killed Kuroisan by himself alone!
(Well, he almost did it anyway) "

depends on reward...here is a simple and nasty trick...have sola cast spell immunity conjuration, this makes him immune to acid arrows..hehhehe, and moonbeam him to death...with moonblade, its trickier, supposedly ruby ray and spell strike work, but i never got it to work...

possibly due to the fact i moved clck26.itm file from the override directory, so i got the old bounce cloak???? may have pooched myself...oh well, i love the old bounce cloak, and even though it may have bounced my breach and spell strike, its just too fun to give up...sigh, greed does it to me again...

Koveras · #13 (**permalink**) 11-08-2002, 07:50 PM

@User, ah, that's what I did with my fighter mage/kensai mages. However, I used protection from acid to lessen the damage if I wasn't mage. Also, inquisitor's dispell absolutely kills Kuroisan.

It makes the fight so easy.

UserUnfriendly · #14 (**permalink**) 11-08-2002, 09:49 PM

kuro uses prot from magic weps, and spell immunity abby, so the dispell wont work, thats why wes advises ruby ray and spell strike, as they are abjuration AND alteration spells....

but will try inquisitor dispell...

one time i cowed him to badly hurt....

summon cow, "scrlzz" in a spell trigger....sola did it, was funny...
hahhahahahhahahhah

actually is a great and very powerful spell, think spell sequenced ring of ram...

does wild surge a lot...

JSPCHIEF · #15 (**permalink**) 11-10-2002, 08:03 AM

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Originally posted by serjeLeBlade
WHAT THE... !?!?

You mean you were able to let Kuroisan "chunk" a level 24 Korgan and a level 17/16 Sola?

(sorry but... what were you thinking about, dude?)
(and...what are you doing hanging around in SoA still with such levels if I may ask?)

If I had a 17/16 Sola, he could have killed Kuroisan by himself alone!
(Well, he almost did it anyway)

Yea..my guys are plenty powerful, I was just unprepared for a fight after the demo battle (I wasn't thinking

). I'm still in SOA because I haven't finished "everything". I just sprinkle in the watchers Keep for variety.