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Old 07-14-2001, 04:58 PM
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Is Diablo 2 a BG2 clone?

I looked at diablo 2 and it mentions you fight the big baddie baal!

It looks similar and it still might be a good game. Is it good.

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NO! ... well its not

Baal is the Lord of Destruction, while Bhaal is the Lord of Murder (no point whatsoever).... also BG OWNS Diablo 2...

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Is kinda funny- main bad dude is named Baal in one and Bhaal in the other- and in both you start in a city where flaming pitch is dropping all the time.
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Old 07-14-2001, 06:24 PM
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The two games are in no ways similar.

However, the PR folks at Blizzard are marketing Diablo II, an action game, as an RPG. Which is nonsense, but they hope by doing so to grab some of the RPG market along with all the action addicts.
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Old 07-14-2001, 06:41 PM
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...and uber items all over the place.
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I'm osrry to report that Diablo2 was released BEFORE baldur's gate 2.
But their totaly different games, for example if our diablo2 character's fought eacht other and you would have won, and whe exanced characters i would have won. while n SOA t's more about who's controlling the charaters.
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I heard somewhere that ToB's high level abilities were (loosely) based on (A)D&D high level rules. Can anyone confirm this?

If so, Diablo 2 must have copied 'em from D&D. At the very least Diablo 2's Barbarian abilities. The similarities are striking:[*]Bash -> Smite[*]Iron Skin -> Hardiness[*]Whirlwind -> Whirlwind Attack (duh)[*]Stun -> Power Attack[*]Warcry -> Warcry (more duh)

Of course, none of these must have been exceptionally hard to come up with...

edit: damn listitems...

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I have both BG2 and Diablo 2, and I like Baldur's Gate so much more, its more than just hack and slash...

Diablo 2 is fun if you like to run around killing monsters and finding better items with no plot whatsoever (I agree, where the heck did they get the idea that its an RPG? )

Well anyway thats MHO. Oh, and no, I dont think D2 is a BG2 clone (It would have been much better if it were )
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Hmmhmm

Fireball=Fireball
LightningBolt=Lightning
ChainLightning=Chainlightning...

Wan't me to continue that list? No? I thought so!
Well, my point is: Some things are so famous(like Fireball) that they are used in almost any game...
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Can someone enlighten me on how the two pronunciations differ?
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IMHO Diablo 2 is an action game with very thin elements of role-playing and BGII is a role-playing game that tried to appeal too much to action/power gamers.
Two completely different games and both can be fun as long as you treat them that way.
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WotC has released a PnP Diablo RPG using the D&D rules (there are even models for the Diablo characters). So I guess there’s a slight connection between Diablo 2 and ToB through this spin-off.

EDIT: Tons of abbreviations in this post, aren’t there?

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I still dont think you can compare D2 to an rpg like BG. IMO
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Blizzard always comes up with superb back-stories for their games yet seldom do they feature this rich background information in more then little tidbits. The fact that they have a writers bible for the authors who script the various novels based on Diablo, Warcraft, and Starcarft shows that they care about the history of their worlds. That being said, Diablo admittedly has only slim RPG overtones. But if someone wanted to Roleplay in the Diablo world I think it’s easily feasible. In fact, assuming the Diablo world is in it’s own unique crystal sphere then it’s possible for a PnP DM to have Jaheira meet up with Deckard Cain through some spelljamming or extra-plannar portal.

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