...and Bards(at Last!)

Sethir · #1 (**permalink**) 03-08-2001, 10:34 AM

Tis is (un)official page for Bards in BGII.
Speak Your mind about abilities of Bards
(sometimes they are good,yes?)
Bards of the word UNITE!
(I play BGII. as fighters and mages - sorry)
(sorry for my bad einglish-sometimes)

Satyr · #2 (**permalink**) 03-08-2001, 10:41 AM

I started out as a blade, but found myself using him mostly as a (relatively weak) mage by the time I got to chapter 3. The fights were getting too tough for him. I also made good use of him as a pick pocket, but I don't think I'd play one as a PC again (I'd consider picking up Haer-Dalis though).

PS - your english is fine... I can barely hear the accent.

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"Pain heals,
chicks dig scars,
glory lasts forever."

Nighthawk · #3 (**permalink**) 03-08-2001, 01:46 PM

My take on bards:

Blade: Bonuses focussed on himself. Problem is that even with those bonuses he still lacks the number of attacks to be a good fighter. He's sort of a fighter/mage with pickpocket ability...problem is that a fighter mage would fight and mage much better.

Skald: Excellent bard song, very strong in a party. Gives almost Kensai level bonuses to everyone (+4/+4 vs +6/+6).

Jester: Haven't tried it, but the invis/cloak of non-detect, Jester's song sounds like a lot of fun. Run into the room and let the monsters kill eachother.

Normal Bard: I wish there was better documentation on exactly what his song does...

Astafas · #4 (**permalink**) 03-09-2001, 01:45 AM

Sethir; Actually we have spoken of bards before on this board. Still, it is good of you to take the subject up again. Bards are clearly underestimated, in my opinion.

Nighthawk; I agree with you on all points. Maybe you could add that a high level blade on Tenser's Transformation is an extremely good fighter and that the saving throw + 4 against the Jester's bard song takes away its usefulness quite a bit. And as for the normal bard song, I've completely given up my hope to get an answer. When not even the guys at Bioware have a clue...

sigurd · #5 (**permalink**) 03-09-2001, 02:18 AM

Nothing about Bards, but can someone tell me what the cloak of detection really does?
Please, the long version..

Astafas · #6 (**permalink**) 03-09-2001, 02:54 AM

Sigurd; If you have a question that is not related to any thread, then you shoud make a new one. The only persons who will answer your question now are those with interest for bards.

I believe you refer to the cloak of NON-detection. This cloak makes it impossible for mages and, I think, also clerics, to detect you while you are invisible. Otherwise, for example the spell True Sight would dispel the invisibility. I believe the cloak also protects thieves hiding in shadows, but I haven't really tried this.

Sethir · #7 (**permalink**) 03-09-2001, 10:52 AM

Cloak of Non-detection is wear by evil sorcerer in Den of 7 vales (2nd floor)
- Waukeens promenade.

My friend played BGII. as Blade and Skald too
- it was very nice.
(i think that JESTER is very dangerous in fight and in inn too :-)

Brink · #8 (**permalink**) 03-09-2001, 07:54 PM

The Cloak of Non-Detection prevents your character who is hidden in shadows to be detected when a mage casts True Sight or other magical means.Your character must hide in shadows for the non-detection to work.Note that the invisibility feature from the ring of invisibility is not affected by the Cloak of Non-Detection(you will still be revealed even if you are wearing the cloak)

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