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02-01-2002, 10:10 AM
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| | Warders are no match for my fighter-thief **SPOILER** After playing BG2 for awhile, I was feeling a bit nostalgic and decided to play BG1 again, this time with an elven fighter-thief, whom I plan to import into BG2. So, last night, I finally got my party to Durlag's Tower, and just finished the level with the Four Warders. I decided to keep my party out of sight, and let my PC go it alone.
Before confronting the Four Warders, I first had him drink a Potion of Perception to boost his Stealth skill, then had him drink a Potion of Storm Cloud Giant Strength, Potion of Heroism, Potion of Invulnerability, and finally a Potion of Haste. After he spoke to Love, he ran around a corner and then hid. Fear followed him, so he backstabbed him, first, and dropped him in two hits. He next targetted Avarice, by shooting him with an arrow to get him to follow, and backstabbed him. After exchanging a few blows, Avarice went down rather quickly. Pride must have heard the commotion, because he came running up. My PC ran and hid, then backstabbed him. After a couple more backstabs, Pride went down, too. Finally my PC went after Love (being careful to avoid the area where someone fired off Cloudkill), and backstabbed him, too. He quickly went around the corner and hid as Love started to fire off a spell that he never completed. He came back and backstabbed Love again (with a critical hit), and Love, too, fell to my PC. The battle was over in less than 5 minutes.
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02-01-2002, 05:59 PM
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Not trying to under rate your char, but you'll have my respect if you solo the funny little guy after you emerge from durlags tower(the one in the basement with the symbol on the floor{tanar'ri}
i just love that guys spell that turns you into a ghoul, yep gotta love it  | 
02-02-2002, 12:13 AM
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| | | Funny you should say that. I did have him solo the Tannar'ri, last night! After the battle with the cult members upstairs, my PC drank a Potion of Heroism, a Potion of Frost Giant Strength, and hid himself. After going down the stairs, he quickly moved into a corner, and started picking off the cultists, one by one, with Arrows of Biting. The leader spotted him and summoned Aec'Letec, but he stayed out of the Tannar'ri sight and finished off the cultists. Next, he drank a Potion of Clarity and a Potion of Mirrored Eyes, hid himself, and backstabbed the Tannar'ri. He was able to run and hide again, and backstabbed the beastie a second time. After that, he went toe-to-toe with Aec'Letec, until he went down.
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02-04-2002, 09:42 AM
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| | | Did you have coran in your party as well. oof.
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02-04-2002, 11:43 AM
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| | Nope - my party consisted of :
my PC - elven fighter thief
Imoen - dualed to conjurer
Khalid
Jaheira
Ajantis
Xan - "We're all doomed!" 
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02-04-2002, 12:52 PM
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| | | I was just thinking of the havoc two fighter/thieves could wreck. I played with this group, soj:
me thief (lv3.) dualed to fighter all points in Hide in shadows
coran
imoen (also dualed to conjurer)
safana
minsc
branwen (dualed to thief)
anyway, wound up with an entire party that could hide in shadows. five backstabbers, what fun.
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02-04-2002, 01:38 PM
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| |  Yea, my main PC was creating some serious havoc, without any help!! I was really surprised at how much he was able to handle solo in the tower. It seemed my other characters were just there to carry stuff. However, the battle with Sarevok's minions in the ducal palace was a different story. It's a challenge to take on a group of monsters while protecting some friendlies at the same time! I would have appreciated having a party with the ability to hide - so I could sneak them into position before the battle started. (I ran out of invisibility potions.  )
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02-05-2002, 03:29 AM
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| | What weapon did you use for backstabbing??
And what is the best backstab weapon in BG?
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02-05-2002, 04:22 AM
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| | | I used Varscona (long sword +2 that does cold damage) through most of the game, and used the Staff of Striking (when I got it) against skeleton warriors and battle horrors.
I would say that the Staff of Striking is the best backstabbing weapon in the game, though it has limited charges (you can re-charge it the same way you do wands - I think the merchants put ~20 charges on it.)
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02-05-2002, 04:33 AM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by Sojourner (you can re-charge it the same way you do wands - I think the merchants put ~20 charges on it.) | You mean to sell and re-buy the wand/staff?
And what non-charge weapon is the best? defender??
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02-05-2002, 04:52 AM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by Stilgar You mean to sell and re-buy the wand/staff?
And what non-charge weapon is the best? defender?? | 1) That's right - you sell and buy the Staff of Striking to charge it.
2) Well, if you're willing to kill Drizzt for it. Other good ones are Quarterstaff +3, Varscona, and the Short Sword of Backstabbing.
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02-05-2002, 04:55 AM
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| | | I always take drizzt, i usually go for him as soon as i have enough money for alot of arrows, i use the "island"trick, and i buy back the lost reputation!
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02-05-2002, 04:58 AM
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| | I guess I'm too much of a Drizzt fan, and tend to play "good" anyway (even with a chaotic-neutral PC  ).
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02-05-2002, 09:29 AM
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| | | I've never killed drizzt either. couldn't adopt that cheesy island trick plus a +5 weapon in BG would make things too easy.
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02-05-2002, 09:37 AM
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| | | it's a +3 weapon, and I killed him just to see if i could....
The weapons are good, but the armour is great!
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