[galraen]

I just checked the AI for those two, and Honditar should offer his services after 10am if he's in the vicinity of the Great Oak.

Hauls-Rope-faster on the other hand isn't scheduled to offer his services at all, even though he's supposed to be a trainer!

This could be a typical Oblivion AI bug, the game's riddled with them unfortunately, Radiant AI sucks big time. I've been having problems getting thieves guild fences to trade, as have others, all I can suggest is perseverance.

If you're playing on a PC this can be overcome if you're prepared to use the editor. If on another platform just keep trying with Honditar,who's also set to offer his services when he's at home, but that could present other problems.