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Originally Posted by Siberys  @Tolden.
What makes you think I would trust what a reviewer would say or how many awards a show has gotten. Elder Scrolls 4 oblivion has received about a thousand 8 to 10 out of 10's, yet the game is mediocre by anyone with more than half a brain's standard. |
You said it was unpopular, I was showing that it was, in fact, popular with both circles of tv viewers, the audience and the critics, no matter what your personal opinions of them may be.
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Originally Posted by Siberys Me saying it's unpopular doesn't include the entire world. I was more or less meaning in my area, as I have quite a few friends at my college, and a lot of them have had a conversation with BSG brought up, most of them mentioning how they hate it. |
You'll forgive me if I didn't assume you meant by saying a show wasn't popular you meant more than just your friends. Islam, tofu, and independent films aren't popular in my home city, but for me to bluntly say they aren't popular and trust that you'd know I was referring strictly to my town would be laughable.
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Originally Posted by Siberys As for the ratings being incredible, yes, they are. Opinions are always incredible towards someone else's opinion, why would I trust the opinion of a complete stranger saying good things about the series over my own? Why should I? I'm not going to believe or agree with someone when they say a show, series, or hell even a religion is good or the best when I have no prior knowledge of the subject in question myself. |
My point here was that, hoping you were claiming it to be unpopular based on more than "a few friends," ratings (which are an outmoded and out of step of research in my opinion) are a poor indicator of 'popularity.'
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Originally Posted by Siberys It's nothing worth mentioning if it has no merit to my opinion. |
So industry recognized awards, the highest of their fields, are worthless to all arguments just because you don't personally trust them? I was never asking you to trust them, to believe in the Hollywood system. I was just continuing to show you that the fame of BSG extended beyond just some people watching tv, but it was recgonized as quality by the people that usually tend to disagree with the average tv viewer anyway.
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Originally Posted by Siberys Why not, if I don't care for a show I will brush it off because as said, I don't care for the show. That kind of goes hand in hand. |
Well, frankly, it doesn't matter if you don't like it. Attempting to devalue it is something else. I could sit here and claim that you never gave it a fair shot, which I believe you had your mind made up already, and that is a very close minded approach or I could just respect that you don't care for it. There's a difference there.
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Originally Posted by Siberys If I had no prior knowledge of the show, that would immediately turn me off. What business does a science FICTION show have on parodying modern life situations, current events, and politics. This shows not only a lack of originality but a subliminal message of a potentially one sided viewpoint of the current situation, event, or politic parodied. |
Now here is where you really threw a curve ball. Assuming you remember earlier when I mentioned that BSG uses Science Fiction as a SETTING, not a STORY? The scifi part of BSG is merely a boat to deliver a message, a story. That's the great thing about it. What about commenting on important issues such as religion, morality, the very essence of humanity is unoriginal? Is a story about trying to get a ship out of a black hole because the hyperdrive broke more creative then intertwining a story where the 'good' guys are driven to such extremes to resort to suicide bombings? I'll take the story about how these people we've been following for years now are so desperate to do ANYTHING to lash out against their occupiers as to sacrifice themselves over technobabble anyday. Some of the characters support them, some of them try to remain neutral, and some are totally disgusted with those actions. Funny thing is, so are the viewers. That's quality. It brings up topics that actually matter and make you look at them, it's not saying "Oh suicide bombing is noble!" it's trying to make you understand WHY they resort to that, what makes people work in these situations. You may not care for that and it seems you don't, so I don't really know what else to say in regards to that.
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Originally Posted by Siberys Right...would that mean you download it? |
Actually, no. I once downloaded a single episode of Heroes because I missed it due to work and I wasn't sure when the repeat was. Turns out Heroes can be viewed on nbc.com anyway. In theory, I don't have a problem with downloaders, I just wish the TV people would take advantage of this medium. Some are starting to and I think that's great.