[fable]

Next, from Claudius:

C Elegans,

What I have discovered is that I in fact have a different opinion from you. Is that Ok with you? I realize that fable wanted to close discussion on this but since you respond to me then I will reply back. In my view you can have different meanings to art: a conventional meaning of the mandala of artworks accepted by generations and a community as you mention. Also pre-dating (and in fact outside of time and space) this (cave paintings) you have the actual act of art itself which is beyond concepts and is just the natural expression of the artist. The caveman drew a animal on the wall because they were moved to do it - art. The first is conditional phenomenon and is stamped by the 3 marks of conditioned existence: non-self, impermanence, and unsatisfactory. These 3 marks mean it is an unreliable refuge. Therefore it is nothing to worry over. The second (the act of art) could be the actual heart nature of the artist which is lasting, self (or non-other), and satisfactory also known as buddha nature.

So I guess I am interested in art as an expression of your awareness but I am not interested in the conditional phenomenon art (well at least not as a refuge).

Thank you. And I would like to say that I like video games and I hope that people enjoy them. But it should be a spontaneous recognition of the games quality. In other words if people respond to games in a positive light then so be it but I am not going to be upset if some people do not like them. It would be foolish for me to try and control their opinions.