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Old 08-11-2007, 03:56 PM
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@VonDondu

You really did not have to apologize.

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You challenged the "Soulmates Crowd" to explain how "inter-spirit" communication works, and you basically gave them a choice between a) offering an explanation in accordance with the laws of classical physics, or b) admitting that they are talking about telepathy and psychokinesis, which in my experience are frequently the objects of scorn.
Don't you think that even the quantum-mechanical phenomena should be subject to some sort of the law of nature? Or, perhaps, the “nature” stopped at subatomic threshold, and all these lawless phenomena are just the mind-boggling mathematical expressions of all probable/improbable physical states (warping reality into a mathematical paradox), imagined by mad physicists who skipped their meds (which is as likely)? There is only one step (or leap of faith), here, to dualism and the idea of divine source of matter (which is fine, if one is ready to make this leap of faith). Is that what you wish to discuss?
I mentioned some properties of a wave vs. telepathy because I can't imagine any other way of spiritual communication between two people separated by continents. Can you?


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I didn't expect anyone here to answer a challenge like that, but I did not want to comment directly on your challenge--you were fully within your rights, and I did not wish to say anything negative about it. However, I did wish to let everyone know that I for one am perfectly willing to hear, shall we say, less than scientifically rigorous ideas on the subject of soulmates, because I love to listen to speculation.
And so do I. A member, who I personally respect, presented his anecdotal evidence of an incredible bond ("We share such an incredible empathy, bordering on telepathy...") he shares with his wife who, being in Mali, experienced some "bad feelings" on the day he was hospitalized. We don't know whether his wife had similar prophetic feelings before or after that day. Could that be a coincidence? It seems (to me) he did not think so. He said, "If that ain't "soulmates" then nothing is."
I would absolutely love to listen to all sorts of speculations, scientific and otherwise, about how such an extraordinary event could possibly occur.
You subtly ridicule my question. Is the question less valid than the claim?

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I think there is lots of room for other kinds of explanations for "things we can't quite understand". My remarks didn't really have much to do with your question to the group, but it was my intention to stimulate more debate by offering people a little more leeway than you did (the way I perceived it, anyway). And I was hoping that my remarks about quantum mechanics would themselves stimulate some more discussion.
Somehow, I doubt you can stimulate much debate involving Hilbert space or Schroedinger equation.
On the other hand, I was able to elicit a confession from Naffnuff that he believes in telepathy.

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(Are you suggesting that I was going off-topic? I'm not clear on that.)
No more than Fable when he invoked his Penguinology (he should've presented us with a respectably long list of references and sources too, but he is eccentric).
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