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Old 07-31-2007, 07:38 PM
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Hi all... long time >.<.
I was lurking for some info... and decided to visit you ppl^^

About the topic, IMO the private x public is definitelly messed nowadays.
And I totally agree with Fable on his critics to the way people handle and see private rights(rights over things).

I ll leave here some insights.

Right of property is in its origins a kind of right that is "oposed to all"(oponível ŕ todos).
This means that property is a negative right. This way: If I own a Pencil, this means i ll express my property right against all others... as they cannot have or own that pencil, cause it is mine.
(obs.: This negative and positive is not a good/bad reference... take GB forum rules as example: You cannot, you cannot, you cannot... it is a negative system too)

This above seems like a semanthycs bull****, but is not. It is deeper... it is a perspective bull**** =P. Heheh

In a social perspective, property rights is negative/oposed. In self perspective, property rights is positive/permisive.

Obviously, i am not against property and so. We live like this since the bourgeois rev. But, the real problem is that in the last five or six decades all about property became insane, nonsense.
To the point that it doenst even need purpose. It became the purpose.
And then, my critic is exactly direct to this insanity of property(not the property itself).

Another insight is inspired on my country Constitution.
Year 1988.
One year before Berlin wall colapse. So, it is somehow inspired both on liberal line and socialist´s.
It is a very rich and beautiful act.
It says, that all property must be aware to its social utility.
This means the freedom of private property is limited to its social utility.
And even if this constitutional statement is more of a dream than a social reality(as Brazil is one of the most cruel wealth distribution countries), i really am an enthusiast of the statement(claimed sometimes in our rights).
This way: I don´t really care about the size and dimension of a private mansion, territory, farm or any other property(even money); ...as long as it is a museum, or factory that employ ppl, or a garden/park open to the public, or an area of bio-preservation, or anything else that have a social relevance and utility.
Something and its purpose...
To say that "I have this land cause i bought it, and that is enough" is not property rights... is sickness.


Awnsering the question i live in 90m2(sorry for the metrical sys.) apartment.
Me, my wife and Sophia(the cat =P).
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