[dj_venom]

I am not denying our greatness, and that we are the most advanced, I am debating the encouraging of Imperialism, that is, the right for a stronger group to enforce its will on another.

Secondly, I don't see in Masa's post anything that points to his supporting abuse of animals. He does say "use to a certain point" and later points out that he objects to molesting and torturing animals.

They just act upon their senses and that is what gives us the right to "use" animals to our own advantage(this may sound horrible but don't take it that way)to a certain point to entertaining purposes

So because they are living how they choose, we can exploit that? Such as boxing kangaroos perhaps? Or maybe dancing pandas? Or how about using electro-therapy on animals to make them sit still while having their photo taken?

...and yes testing too but I think they use mainly those lowlife creatures such as rats and other critters(can you honestly demand the tests to be done with humans or no testing at all, and animal activists I think they care more about animals than humans, which to me is absurd).

I think that statement there does push for animal cruelty. So you personally think rats are disgusting, so that gives you a right to use them as you will. Frankly I think some people are disgusting, but I don't think that gives me the right to use them as I want.

We have a right to protect and help these animals, not to abuse them.

And if a threat is to come from the animal world, I frankly see it not coming from mammals or other vertebrates.

I don't expect a threat from these either. But that doesn't mean we can treat them like dirt.