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Old 04-13-2006, 09:43 PM
Amran_X_Kaiser Amran_X_Kaiser is offline
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Here are the strategies that I used to beat the tactics battles that I feel deserver 'special attention'

'Lately using tactics has been fun, I use to just sit there and heal myself continously on the mods, but now after careful inspection and spell memorization and tactics, I can safely say tactics is very doable and is not over-powered (minus faldorn but I believe she can be beaten (without cheese))

A long time ago.....

After hearing complaints that tactics was handing people their own heads on a platter, I checked it out for myself, being a veteran, I studied the tactics used and what can be exploited - safe to say several battles can be done with a party of 2-3 or maybe even one if your pushing it. The mods are virtual godsen to powergamers as it utilizes tactics, strategies and spells to the maximum - fortunately so did I so I was chuffed when Illyich managed to waste me stupid as it showed me someone finally managed to make a mod that was worthwhile. Couple tactics, ascension, apack - this was used in prepatory research into the effectiveness of assassins, ease of use but no item upgrade - maybe later but I like the items they way they are - however future mods I will be playing when I have the time will be sola, kelsey, xan and maybe another one haven't decided. One thing is important - I didn't install XP cap remover - don't like it. Whenever I export my char I lose the abilities that were innately for that class, archer>call shot eg. Still, using this to my advantage to overcome the mods mentioned above was challenging.

Not so long ago....

Improved Illyich I finally handed is head to him on platter, Lich in City Gates totally wasted and the slave lords plus the Kangaxx Gaurdians.

Illyich has no mage power to speak of - use this against him and try not to get in the way of slow/fatiguing innate ability. Karazamov is the most dangerous with his crowssbow as it his +2 plus +3 bolts - show me something that isn't immune to +5 weapons ! Zhivago can be a pain but not if he doesn't call Summon Fallen Planetar - stop that and your fine (then beat her to death), if you don't you may as well reload. Illyich and Rasputin can be done in with hitting them enough times (deurgar brutes are just small brutes - hit brutes enough times....) The Cornugon demon is tough but not unbeatable with the right spell available to a... (intentionally forgets). Ah the jailkeep golem - a tough one no doubt - but simple move - kill illyich take his hammer and bash in the golems skull or use a one of several low-level spells available to all classes that can cast-spells which I won't mention - tip, hide in bookcases often.

The City Gates lich is easy - you have the first move if you cast an invisibility spell, while most people just run for daystar, I used this as an oppurtunity to beat him in a mage duel with my mage protaganist, no triggers or contiginies were used at this time since I couldn't find the scrolls for them and the sorcerer spells are too limitied to use in tactics plus the fact I had only 3 party members I had to utilize all the spells I could. The lich is tough but he doesn't use his spells until he can: identify you, timestop, gate a demon and then kill you with spells - stopping him may not be possible with his spell trigger so use that 1st spell to your advantage - oh and you only have 3-4 seconds to use it until his trigger comes up so don't take too long or it may not even work - if he summons a demon you die painfully - I did anyway.

The Slave Lords have long been regarded has tough cookies, true they are, koshi and sion are tough with those two tough brutes slaughtering your spellcasters and the assassin and cleric providing support - seem their pretty well organised with their barrels of summons. Here's a hint, cast the correct two spells with a single trigger or a mage and bard combo and you have instantly removed their effectiveness by half (these scrolls are in Athlaka also so it can be done) I tackled these guys with an ordinary party of six to prove it could be done. Koshi has no physical or magical defence once his defences are gone - so remove em. Ketta can backstab, not fight, not swallow a protection potion - just backstab - so stop here from doing so. The big brutes are just that - brutes - hit brutes enough times and they go down, if brute force isn't working your not using enough. Sion and Stalman are high level spellcasters and summoners, kill them and do it fast, I personally at this point used a sequencer of 2 dispelling spells combined and a defensive spell that may or may not have had an effect - I ended up attacking them in the end with everyone. If Sion gets of his timestop you are going to die - no exaggeration, 3 abi-dhalzims are nothing that you can stand against. Multiple mass healings that my cleric had the first time I fought them didn't help that much. Stop stalman from summoning is fairly easy once his protection is gone, sion you have to beat with a mage so you better have one that can cast peirce magic, breach and remove magic - and anything else that is useful. Oh and to prove my point that tactics is doable, I fought the Slave Lords and won and still had my entire party left alive, if a little worse for wear.

The Kangaxx gaurdians are hard but also rather ...stupid. Basically remove the lichs protections and cast an area of effect offensive spell, which is up to you but mines was a level 6 one, if you have a mage, everyone will attack you - even the lich at the far side since your just out of his vision- the lich near the stairs just summons pesky critters (demons, skeletons and other annoying creatures that suck you dry) Once the lich from the far-side get nears go outside (yes you heard me correctly) The minotuars and skeletons will follow you - kill them - even though you re-enter they magically re-appear - once critical thing has happend - you cast dispelled the protections on the liches and went outside to plan your next move. Use this tactic to your advantage - just watch out if the fighter follows you - he can cause a world of hurt. The dwarf has a soul reaver sword I think so its best to pound him into oblivion before he kills you. The liches will remain in the house while you go in and out taking chunks out of them with swords and spells but also with you being able to recuperate and manageable periods. How to kill the liches you say ? Beats me. Find a tactic you like and use it - preferably on the lich that casts the evocation spells rather than the conjuration spells.

Unfortunately I have not found a tactic to kill the 'lich in the docks' - she is a tough one, going to try out some tactics involving two rarely used spells. If I do I'll edit this post. Hope this helps. Although there was a tactic I used against improved bodhi, going to leave that to the imagination, let others find a way to beat her up.'
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