I happen to have a handy little spreadsheet and it reveals.. Halfling, on stats 160 vs Elf-135 (total of all starting abilities at 19 Dex not including hear noise, climb wall, read languages), Gnome is next-105 with Half-Elf being the worst at 80 (but 19 Dex is not available/included). Elves of course get +1 with longsword but you cannay backstab with a long sword... - Curdis |