FO: NV Using GECK to add custom weapons to perks

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FO: NV Using GECK to add custom weapons to perks

Postby GawainBS » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:49 am

More specifically, I want to add some of [url='http://newvegas.nexusmods.com/mods/37002']these weapons[/url] to the Grunt perk, and the others to the Laser Commander perk. Also, I want to add the Assault Carbine (GRA) to the Grunt list.

How do I do that? Googling doesn't really bring answers. I'm completely new to the GECK.

Thanks in advance!

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Postby Kipi » Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:37 pm

You could read [url='http://geck.bethsoft.com/index.php/Category :P erk']this[/url] article. I haven't dabbled with GECK too much since I think it's not user friendly, especially when you try to create locations.

Basically, as far as I understood, the effects of perks is determined in Perk Entries, which includes the items it affects.
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Postby GawainBS » Sun Mar 03, 2013 1:38 pm

Thanks. I tried making some NPCs "Essential" too. I couldn't even find them...

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Postby galraen » Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:32 pm

Providing the modder did her/his job properly they should be automatically included by the Grun perk. The perk, as I read it, modifies according to the gun or explosive skill, not the weapon. At least in the Perk tab it refers to gun and explosive, as opposed to any weapon or even weapon category as in 'Small gums'.
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Postby galraen » Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:33 pm

PS I assume the same is true of Laser Commander, although I never checked that in GECK.
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Postby galraen » Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:34 pm

PPS Yes the GECK is very confusing at first, second and even third! :D
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Postby GawainBS » Mon Mar 04, 2013 2:15 am

So why aren't other DLC weapons included in the perk by default? And are you saying that weapons have a "hidden discroptor" like "Assault Rifle" or "SMG"?

P.S.: I tried making Follows-Chalk in Honest Hearts essential, since last time I shot him before I knew any better, but I didn't even find him in the GECK...

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Postby Kipi » Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:51 am

GawainBS wrote:So why aren't other DLC weapons included in the perk by default? And are you saying that weapons have a "hidden discroptor" like "Assault Rifle" or "SMG"?


I think that was done to avoid problems if the player doesn't have both DLCs.
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Postby GawainBS » Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:28 am

Ah, well, found a mod to include the other DLC weapons. Fingers crossed that the other modders thought of including the weapons then.

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Postby galraen » Mon Mar 04, 2013 4:53 am

The perk itself is added by a DLC, it isn't part of the vanilla game.

PS To access any DLC content with GECK you have to select the DLC when starting a project.
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Postby GawainBS » Mon Mar 04, 2013 5:11 am

Thanks, I figured both things out. :)

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Postby galraen » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:07 am

Then I don't understand why you can't find Follows Chalk, he was easy enough to find in the GECK when I checked earlier. The only reason I could think of was that you weren't checking the box, if you are, and he isn't there then you presumably have some kind of bug. You do have the latest version of GECK right?
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Postby GawainBS » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:25 am

I checked "Honest Hearts" and went to search under "NPC" "Hispanic" "Male", but he isn't there. Several WhiteLegs are, though.

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Postby galraen » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:59 am

Sort by name (not ID which is NVDLC02FollowsChalk) and you should find him.
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Postby GawainBS » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:37 am

Thanks, I'll give this a shot when I'm back home.

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Postby GawainBS » Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:19 pm

GawainBS wrote:So why aren't other DLC weapons included in the perk by default? And are you saying that weapons have a "hidden discroptor" like "Assault Rifle" or "SMG"?


Can someone answer this, please? I really want to know which "Classic Fallout Weapons" (see link in 1st post) fall under the "Grunt" perk, if any.
For example: Do all the assault rifles fall under it? (Would be logical.) Does the P90 fall under it? It's an SMG which uses 10mm ammo, but it's very much inline with the Grunt perk.