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i cant remember, but i think i first posted pushing kangy with ring about a year ago, except my original cheese was to use delay action fireballs....almost kills him, but not quite....

tyb, if you install balderdash fixpatch that cheese is disabled,,,

demi liches, like the one in watchers is totally vulnerable to dragon breath, one will almost always kill it......

i cant remember if balderdash fixes it, but if ALL members of party are protected against undead he becomes immortal, you need one member spell immune abby to kill it...