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12-13-2008, 06:38 PM
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 | Exalted Member | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kernow (Cornwall), UK
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As I recall no, if you couldn't convince his son to talk to you about the shape and the stone you can't get him. It's not just persuasion that you need by the way, you also need very high intelligence when you talk to the son, one of the inteligence boosting potions will do the job if you don't have high enough intelligence naturally.
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