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Originally Posted by Lady Dragonfly  @Xandax
Even so. Does it excuse poor little darling Saakashvili? Of course, he is "our staunch ally" who sent 2000 military contingent into Iraq despite the fact his own country's economy was (and is) in shambles. Of course, we need to support and protect our best friend (aka puppet) who was sending in more and more troops (to suck up to Bush, no doubt) while the other countries were pulling their troops out (which was the right thing to do, imho).
You guys keep on dismissing the obvious - this ambitious guy started the whole affair and apparently committed genocide hoping to force America into the conflict. Right, all we need is to fund another war. As if millions of taxpayers' dollars already pumped into this "democratic"  regime are not enough.
He is a drama queen as well - all those staged "cover him up!" in front of the amused reporters (when nothing was going on, really) and "sorry guys but I have to go my bomb shelter, talk to you later", or "The bombs that are falling on us, they have an inscription on them: This is for NATO. This is for the U.S." stink of melodramatic cheese.
Just go ahead and tell me: do you approve of his actions?
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Firstly - there are currently just as many "speculations" and "report" that this might have been instigated by the Russians who've been "mediating" in the conflict for years. That they baited Georgia to attack and succeeded with great effect.
Sorry, but I do not trust Russian politics, even less so then I do the US ones. At least the US ones are somewhat democratically choosed in a country where a means of liberty exists. Not some two bit dictators wanting to play Tsars again and cling to power.
I've seen nothing indicating that Georgia were the aggressor in this instance, more so then it wasn't Russian backed and armed people in South Ottesia and Abkhazia.
Russia have many political reasons to want to "punish" Georgia severely, and their actions in Chechnya shows quite truly to which lengths Russia is willing to go to with wiping out civilians and keeping control of "its" lands.
One must also ask why Russia was/is so hell-bent on "defending" South Ottesia, while at the same time did not want Kossovo to be "liberated" and "defended" and while they at the same time perform such devastating actions in Chechnya. It doens't add up, lest one thinks that Russian politicians suddenly got a "change of heart". (doubtful, they still occupy Chechnya)
Sorry - this one sided "Georgia must get its ass kicked because they started it" line rings so incredible hollow.
Dig a little deeper, and it is clearly because Russia wants to assert its power as a superpower again; wants to show that those countries are *its* sphere of influence and its word is law and so on.....
Besides, once it is official that Georgian has performed genocide these last couple of days, you can claim they did - until then you just speculate that one part did and the other didn't, and that is hardly usable as an argument.
So you can drop the "do you support genocide" line of question as they aren't relevant, nobody here supports it - even you I'm sure - but we try to see a little more deeper then just some playground father beating up a bully until he must be hospitalized.
There is much more to this then what can be read in the censured and state controlled Russian press - that's almost undeniably clear.